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All Forums » Fire Extinguishing » Fire Fighting System for Electrical Control Building & Transformers - Post Reply
Rodrigo Hernandez
Posted - July 21, 2010  00:35:14More Info
 

I need information for design project for a electrical substation having 1 Oil transformers (outside) and complete control room. Full fire fighting and fire alarm systems

Ahmad Shaar
Posted - June 23, 2010  03:48:47More Info
 

I need a good and full example - design project for a substation having 3 Oil transformers (outside) and complete 2 story building Substation. Full fire fighting and fire alarm systems

Hugo Marhx
Posted - December 01, 2009  15:51:23More Info
 

I believe that before starting “competition rain marks” and suppression agents, is to make a good analysis of risk.
Example:
The area will normally occupied.?
The area will be temporarily occupied.?
Which is the density of electric equipment.?

Moreover, the FM-200 or Novec not necessarily break down right into the fire, they are agents who will control before it spreads.
Ideally, the product of your analysis, is the choice of most appropriate means of detection, a good economic analysis based on the most convenient gaseous agent.
The CO2, FM-200 or Novec 1230 are a good Agent for the possible risk

Steve Forster
Posted - November 04, 2009  02:07:35More Info
 

I have read the journal papers relating to hypoxic air for fire suppression/prevention in road tunnels, and would like to know if any information is available on when diesel engines would cease to work (what level of O2) - is this above or below the prevent/suppress levels advocated? as this may affect rescue/mitigation options as HGVs will become large obstacles. This would also apply to moving rail cars from tunnels when overhead electrical cantilevers have been damaged/isolated using diesel locomotives

Ronald Verkroost
Posted - February 11, 2009  01:22:37More Info
 

Please note that FirePASS is NOT a nitrogen injection system but an hypoxic air system, offering better safety than nitrogen injection because the oxygen level is always fixed and no mistakes can be made in the design of the system causing the oxygen levels to drop below safety levels. area being protected can only have allowable leakage of no more than 10%. Hypoxic air systems are 100% safe for people since the oxygen level is around 15-16 %, comparable to high altitude, but at these percentages combustion cannot exist. FirePASS offer both permanent inerting systems or systems that discharge upon an alarm. www.firepass.com or rverkroost@desusystems.com for more information.

Sameer Bidani
Posted - February 04, 2009  02:04:09More Info
 

Please send the details of Transformer fire suppression system such as Water Spray System & Nitrogen Injection System.

John Phillips
Posted - January 08, 2009  01:08:18More Info
 

When considering any fire that involves electricity surely a primary concern must be isolation of the supply in order to remove source of enegry. Concentrating only on the extinguishant agent seems rather short sighted.

Shivesh Choudhary
Posted - November 18, 2008  05:21:51More Info
 

I would like to know more on Passive protection in Electrical Substations.

Bill Costello
Posted - October 11, 2008  08:22:58More Info
 

You should take a look at FirePASS system, it is truely the next generation and completely safe for humans ,unlike FM-200 and 3m Products that Mr Rivers from 3M is suggesting. These suppression system by products are very toxic after coming into contact with a flame or electrical arc.

FM-200 breaks down to Hydrogen Fluoride(HF)
3M 1230 breaks down to Trifluoroacetic acid (TFA).

HF is chemical warfare agent! Also HF will destroy your equipment look at the research document titled Corrosion of electronic components by hydrogen fluoride done by the institute for Research and Construction. If you can't find it please feel free to contact me and I will send it to you.

you better not let TFA get into your water system either or you will be in serious trouble because if the Sprinkler happen to be activated during a fire you are in serious trouble.

Mr Rivers sits on the NFPA 2001 Clean agent Standard committee and voted negatively not to include my Purified Hypoxic Air (oxygen reduced) as a clean agent. Mr Rivers stated There is a question whether this is indeed a “clean agent” by definition and debate whether a system based on this concept should be considered a clean agent system

I have to ask the fire community at large to do your research and tell me how is my Hypoxic Air agent is not a clean agent but these systems that can kill humans and destroys computer equipment are a clean agent?


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Amgothu Nivas
Posted - December 22, 2007  10:06:28More Info
 

We are designing an electrical control building (55x15 meters) for a gas based power plant. For this, we have to provide/design the fire fighting systems. The building is with cellar, ground and first floor. F&G system shall cover for building F&G cabinets, Fiber Optic connection and Transformer sheds adjacent to the building.

Can you suggest the following?
1. What kind of fire fighting system can be considered?
2. Is FM200 is ok for the building? If so, how the system can be designed?
3. How about the transformers F&G systems? 

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